# Fediverse/Mastodon -\> Cooperative?

**URL:** <https://community.coops.tech/t/fediverse-mastodon-cooperative/2625>\
**Category:** General\
**Tags:** coops\
**Created:** [26 March 2021 12:37 UTC](https://community.coops.tech/t/fediverse-mastodon-cooperative/2625 "2021-03-26T12:37:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![calummackervoy](https://community.coops.tech/user_avatar/community.coops.tech/calummackervoy/32/3631_2.png) [@calummackervoy](https://community.coops.tech/u/calummackervoy)\
**Post date:** [21 May 2021 14:25 UTC](https://community.coops.tech/t/fediverse-mastodon-cooperative/2625/7 "2021-05-21T14:25:16Z")

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Hi @Hamishcampbell and welcome 🙂

> I find it interesting, and revealing, that nobody here actually talked about what the thried was about [Online governance - openwebgovernancebody - Gitea: Open Media Network](https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki/Online-governance-)
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> If you can look outside your world view… We are doing a funding proposal to do the simple well tested project/workflow (which we know dues not scale) and roll it out trying federation to scale. We know this works to extent , look at the “Fediverse ” as a living example of this approach working to scale small to bigger.
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> Yes there will be lots of “smoke” and we could do with some help keeping the project clear of this.

I think that our worldview probably crosses over more than you might think and that the worldview within CoTech is less standardised than you might think 😅

I think that @Graham has expertise on this from platform 6 but to me your post seems to be roundabout describing a multi-stakeholder co-op

Using instances as stakeholders makes sense on the surface, I’d like to highlight to you though that (on Mastodon) \>99% of the instances are hosted in 5 countries, and some instances hold many more users than others (see [comment above](https://community.coops.tech/t/fediverse-mastodon-cooperative/2625/6) on centralisation in Mastodon)

I liked parts of your post on [the tyranny of structurelessness](https://unite.openworlds.info/Open-Media-Network/openwebgovernancebody/wiki/The-Tyranny-of-Stuctureless---tick-box-list) e.g. rotating roles, but I do feel that you’ve missed out on many of the things I read [here](https://medium.com/the-tuning-fork/11-practical-steps-towards-healthy-power-dynamics-at-work-fcc9bd82c7a2). One of my favourite things about the 11 steps is “break the power taboo”. I think you could consider [Sociocracy](https://sociocracy30.org) as an alternative to the lottery system you outlined in your original post, I think it’s simpler, and via scalable circles it’s more direct/grassroots which seems to be what you’re aiming for when you talk about “getting out of the way of the humans”

I’m not sure I understand the labels “federation to scale” and “project smoke” concretely

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