As far as I’m aware “Holacracy” is a trade marked commercialised branded version of sociocracy. I would have thought that the latter term is a better fit, and probably provides better search results for people interested in learning about it and deploying it within their organisations.
They are parallel movements. Holacracy comes from the book of the same name. They, of course, overlap but share a number of common techniques and a commitment to non-hiearchical relations.
Yes, my understanding is that they are different.
True that holacracy has a pretty prominent consulting/workshop model, but I believe all the assets are open and they are committed to that. For example CC-BY-SA constitution: Holacracy-Constitution/LICENSE.md at master · holacracyone/Holacracy-Constitution · GitHub
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Re network-based energy monitoring tool (@Dot) I’d be happy to meet in Sheffield to help with this if poss
Can I suggest after Sept (got involved with a few things in Sept including a Sheffield Co-operative Showcase and Diversity Festival, and probably climate strike…)
So far, October is a lot easier. May I ask what day/time might suit in Oct?
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According to the (very friendly) cease and desist letter we once received…
Holacracy® is a registered trademark of HolacracyOne, LLC and we reserve the right to use our brand to those organizations that participate in our licensing program.
As you can imagine, it’s important for HolacracyOne to protect the integrity and quality of Holacracy in the world (and for legal reasons to maintain its trademark), partly in respect of our licensed Holacracy providers. For more information about these restrictions and their purpose, you can read more on this page: Trademark & Legal – Holacracy Foundation
In light of these restrictions, I respectfully request that you remove references to Holacracy from the advertising for the session (and previous ads/posts that included these), and remove any references from your public-facing materials that might lead a visitor to believe you are offering services related to Holacracy®. If you are interested in adding Holacracy to your services or in partnering with a Licensed Holacracy Provider to offer Holacracy to your clients and via public venues, please let me know and I’ll be happy to put you in touch with the right person at HolacracyOne to start a conversation about it.
As an aside, I also think it’s misleading to lump Holacracy’s process in with Sociocracy’s – the differences may seem subtle, but we contend that Holacracy’s decision-making isn’t consent-based. You can make decisions in Holacracy (even in governance) that many in the organization and even the team really hate, but unless they have a valid objection to it in governance, they have no power to stop it by withholding consent. This is a common misconception, even among some novice Holacracy practitioners, and we spend quite a bit of time correcting it.
My understanding is that it’s basically some of the stuff from sociocracy, but made so that it can be compatible with traditional private, hierarchical companies. Not as fun as sociocracy
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I’m currently writing an article about how our civilisation is likely to metabolise the climate emergency. To use a bodily metaphor, I think we’re only just now getting a taste of it. Our society has yet to swallow the issue, let alone began to digest it and then move past the problem.
I’ll link to it here when I’m done. The basic point of it though is that I think XR’s disruption is going to look like a carnival by the time we’re really dealing with the climate crisis. A great power war, something like World War 2, or the Seven Years war isn’t too difficult to imagine. And I think technology will have a big place to play in that.
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Whoa! Thanks @harry! (And apologies for my ignorance, @Graham.) I’m grateful for the correction and shareback 
hi Jonathan, yes would be great to get this going again. Monitoring tool with a good dashboard will really make visible the continuous energy use of IT infrastructure … and will be a way of opening discussion around all of environmental impact of tech, not just energy use. w/c 21st October is good, how about Wed 23/10?
OK Dot, I’m not sure how much I can help, but I got the impression that in early/pre-planning stages it would be useful to just talk things over, so I can certainly offer to talk, if that’s helpful.
Wed 23/10 is fine; I can keep that day clear and we can arrange time/place; do I remember you were talking about coming to Sheffield?
Best regards
Jonathan
hi Jonathan, sorry long delay. yes talking things over would be really helpful. Are you still free 23/10? yes I’m happy to come to Sheffield, train arriving 12.20 would that be ok?
thanks and looking forward to chatting about this,
It’s worse than you think Dot, the IPCC Oct 18 report is now not only based on outdated models, the newer ones are much grimmer - but the October “12 Years To Save The Earth” report is based on completely removing one of the most dangerous aspects of climate change, feedback loops. Feedback loops such as the albedo ice effect, clathrate-gun and forest fires etc paint an extremely grim vision of our future, which is for the most part locked-in, resulting in 4-5C temperature rise by 2090 even if we decarbonise by 2030 globally. This omission by the IPCC has been widely reported and criticised by key climate scientists.
Extinction Rebellion are on the lookout for volunteers, designers and volunteer managers of our new XR Rebel Coders community - we need all the help we can get. PM/WA me on 07904091129 if you’re interested.
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(Drifting a little from tech, hope that’s ok)
Does XR have an official opinion or stance on the Labour party? I ask because XR’s material demand is zero emissions by 2025, and the green new deal as defined by conference is zero emissions by 2030.
Is there a pressure plan? Are there compelling reasons for a five year schedule over a ten year one?
Also, will XR then be helping the Labour party get elected, and act as outriders if/when they take office?
I guess the broader question is, how is XR positioning itself towards state power? 1 of the 3 demands has been met, and another one is being triangulated towards. What’s the reaction of XR to this?
Also, if I’m not wrong, XR has quite a lot of money, have they considered paying for any of this software to be created?
I’m asking this in a comradely way. What extinction rebellion have done is pretty impressive and I’d like to see that energy carry on into the next phase of their campaign.
Dot: just to confirm you’re coming to Sheffield today? I’ll meet you today in the railway station, I’ll stand inside the entrance area, 12:20
OK?
Ta
Jonathan
Hey, does anyone here know if an Open Source carbon footprint calculator? We’ve been asked to build one from scratch, but since there are so many around we’re wondering if we’d be better off repurposing an customising one and spending the money on something else to incentivise carbon reduction. Thanks!
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