# Call for input v2: Co-op VPS survey

**URL:** https://community.coops.tech/t/call-for-input-v2-co-op-vps-survey/2802
**Category:** Technology
**Tags:** hardware
**Created:** [9 June 2021 14:19 UTC](https://community.coops.tech/t/call-for-input-v2-co-op-vps-survey/2802 "2021-06-09T14:19:10Z")
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### Author: ![3wordchant](https://community.coops.tech/user_avatar/community.coops.tech/3wordchant/32/1657_2.png) [@3wordchant](https://community.coops.tech/u/3wordchant)
#### Post date: [13 June 2021 13:05 UTC](https://community.coops.tech/t/call-for-input-v2-co-op-vps-survey/2802/9 "2021-06-13T13:05:55Z")

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> [@calummackervoy](#):
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> I’m a bit out of my depth, the main difference between this and a single co-operative attempting this is to benefit from pooling resources and economies of scale?
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> In which case, have yous considered that we might approach Ouvaton and other co-operatives to ask them if they want in? I suppose that involving more co-operatives means that the membership is bigger and harder to manage, but that it would benefit more from economies of scale. I suppose that _not_ involving other co-operatives now doesn’t mean that we can’t scale up later

Yes, basically this – word is that it can be hard for coöps to raise all the cash necessary for hardware, hosting, and putting automation in place when we’re operating individually.

Ouvaton looks super-interesting (and amazing that they’re so long-running 😍); if I’m understanding right, they might indeed want to be a collaborator / service user / customer, using this coöp hardware as the VPS provider behind their service in a similar way to what @jdaviescoates is talking about, and like Autonomic is interested in this service as a basis for [Co-op Cloud](https://coopcloud.tech).

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